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PostSubject: Shoulder Angles   Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:07 pm

When examining conformation on a riding horse - what does shoulder angle tell you? --- a very sharp/more pronounced shoulder angle vs a smaller shoulder angle.

In your opinion does shoulder angle have a direct reflection on soundness, movement, ability to compete in certain disciplines, etc. ?
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PostSubject: Re: Shoulder Angles   Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:46 pm

I notice it when riding, good shoulder usually equals a smoother stride, some of the "upright" shoulders I've ridden have short choppy strides, I really notice in the soft footing of the arena which horses stride long and which stride short by their hoof prints in the ground, and then look at the horse and most of the time the short striding "bumpy" ones to ride are straight shouldered.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoulder Angles   Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:02 pm

I agree with LB. A short, upright shoulder equates a short, choppy stride. A long sloping shoulder offers a much smoother ride. To be fair, while short and steep is the most awful, short and angled isn't much better. I find while the stride is longer the shorter shoulder makes the horse choppy. My horse has a very steep shoulder, yet it is also very long, his stride can be choppy if you try to slow him down, he almost lurches, but if you let him stretch out, he gets just as much freedom as a sloping shoulder and is quite smooth.

I think shoulder has a lot to do with discipline, any sort of riding where one would need a nice long stride like dressage or reining, you would want a horse with a long sloping shoulder. I think a short upright shoulder would be fine if you wanted a short upright stride (I'm picturing crab-walking WP horses lol) but I find that usually with a short upright shoulder the depth of heart girth is usually not great and the front end can be quite weak.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoulder Angles   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:01 am

Don't forget, a shoulder angle is changable.. it is not a fixed joint.

It will change with the pastern angle.... pastern angle will change with the hoof angle.

Your more upright hooves produce and upright pastern which produces and upright shoulder... you then can have a choppy horse to ride.. or one that does not extend out properly.

Get the horse's hooves in check, and you will have a smoother horse.



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