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Sooke
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PostSubject: Dressage question   Dressage question Icon_minitimeSun Oct 03, 2010 6:41 pm

I have a dressage question.

Dressage is not something I watch very often (mostly because it is not on TV very much...) but with the World Equestrian Games being broadcasted, I have seen a fair bit of dressage.

Many of the horses seem to swish there tails alot. Is this common in dressage? Are the riders marked down for this? Does the horse not enjoy the work? (I don't think this would be so, cause the horse would never be able to compete at this level) Maybe the horse is so focused on their job, that they swish their tail?

What do you think?

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PostSubject: Re: Dressage question   Dressage question Icon_minitimeMon Oct 04, 2010 10:01 am

Yes, excessive 'tail ringing' is a deduction from the judges...how much is considered excessive seems to vary though...it usually means the horse is stressing/not happy...
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PostSubject: Re: Dressage question   Dressage question Icon_minitimeMon Oct 04, 2010 12:07 pm

There is a big difference between happy tail swishing and excessive tail wringing. If you look at pictures of old time, lovely classical dressage, the will flip their tails happily during movements requiring a great deal of concentration. A lot of new, rollkured horses with wring their tails a lot, and as Sooke said, it is a deduction from the judge, however 'excessive' is a wide and varied view.
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PostSubject: Re: Dressage question   Dressage question Icon_minitimeTue Oct 05, 2010 9:35 am

Personal opinion here... a lot of the maneuvers are performed by certain leg/seat pressures - being jabbed in the gut isn't pleasant and the tail swoosh is an "acknowledgement" of the pressure.

We had a horse come here whose tail would go non-stop... it had extensive training at one point and not been given adequate release. It's tail would just spin the whole time it was being ridden, once it started getting a release from the pressure it's tail all but stopped swooshing.

I find the tail flick/swoosh is quite common on a lead change...
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PostSubject: Re: Dressage question   Dressage question Icon_minitimeSat Oct 09, 2010 8:58 am

I know I will likely piss some one off here, and I realy don't mean any disrespect.. it's kind of to each his own.. but here is my silly opinions. I have a realy hard time watching dressage... and its because of the un natural way the horses are made to hold their heads and necks, and the chronic tail wringing. Both indicate pain to me.. I'm not into pain.. so I find it personally uncomfortable to witness. I can agree the movement of the legs and body of the horses and riders can be beautiful to see, like a lovely dance.... but I just can't get past that the beauty comes with a price to the horses.
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PostSubject: Re: Dressage question   Dressage question Icon_minitimeSat Oct 09, 2010 9:44 am

Properly ridden, classical dressage, does not involve pain or force. There are a lot of people forcing or shortcutting training these days.

I have ridden dressage and any time the horse indicated any resistance, we worked on it and worked through it. No tail wringing or head cranking for me, just using my body to influence my horse's way of going.
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